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"So for example, if someone is trying to reconstruct the life of the historical Don Kiote and they're using the novel for that purpose, I might try to save that person some time by just saying, 'Look, this this is not a historical source.'"
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Were the Christmas stories meant to be history?
For decades, scholars have claimed that ancient birth narratives were never meant to be taken as history. Then one scholar went and actually read them.
New Testament scholar Caleb Friedeman tested that claim against the ancient biographers themselves, and what he found in their own writing doesn't fit the story we've been told.
🔓 Members get the full unedited interview with Caleb, including Shelby's pushback on whether these stories are too beautiful to be real. faithlab.supercast.com (https://faithlab.supercast.com/)
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February 27, 2026